Thank you for the talk from the U.K. and comparing it to the U.S.A. talk.
Another example that it is not from God because he values higher education and wants the best for his people!
a friend has sent me a mp3 recording of the lecture from the 2007 district assembly entitled: "the superiority of being taught by jehovah" which discourages higher education.
this one is from the nottingham (u.k.) assembly this year.
i thought it would be interesting to compare this with the mp3 of the same lecture from georgia (usa) which was posted earlier here on jwd.
Thank you for the talk from the U.K. and comparing it to the U.S.A. talk.
Another example that it is not from God because he values higher education and wants the best for his people!
i told him that speaking in the tongues was done away with!.
he said prove that one!
at the time, i couldnt!.
Watkins here are the quotes!
“The identification of the great multitude has not heretofore been clear to those creatures on earth who served God. Now, however, we see that the great multitude could not be identified by the followers of Christ Jesus until the coming of the Lord to the temple. Evidently John, being in doubt, propounded the question as to the identity of the great multitude. Had he known, he would not had asked the question.”
What are these which are arrayed In white robes?
And hence came they? Revelation 7:13.“The fact that an elder propounds the question show that the question was not settled prior to the bringing of the church to maturity in Christ, which time is marked by the cleansing of the temple of sanctuary, which did not take place until 1932.” (Daniel 8:14) Riches page 313. .
“Prior to the coming of the Lord Jesus to the temple many of the followers of Christ Jesus, and particularly the “elective elder” company, though themselves to be teachers and interpreters of prophecy, including the prophecy of the Revelation. It was not an unusual thing during the Elijah period of the church to see at conventions some “leading brother” with a group around him, while he was looking wise and expounding his “recently discovered interpretation: of some prophecy, particularly the Revelation. “They had every man of any prominence in the church foretold by the prophetic utterances and were giving much praise and adulation to some of these.”Riches 315.
Today!
“Yes the elder could locate the answer and give it to John. This suggest that the resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today. For their part, those of the John class on earth got to learn the identity of the great crowd closely observing what Jehovah was performing in their midst. They were quick to appreciate the dazzling flash of divine light that emblazoned the theocratic firmament in 1935, at Jehovah’s due time.”
“During the 1920s and early 1930s the John class had stressed the heavenly hope both in the publication and in the preaching work. But increasing numbers of those who needed the message and who showed zeal in the witness work came to profess an interest in living forever in the Paradise earth. They had no desire to go to heaven.” Revelation Book page 124, study paragraph 17.
after this past trip to ohio, i have become painfully more aware of how alone i am.
i miss having someone to share my life with.. .
im almost to the point of dating again, yet i have so many obstacles to overcome.. .
Is there such a thing as almost gay? How many people out there have thought they were gay?
I think you need help!
i have to give a talk on "evidence that gods kingdom is a reality".
how the heck am i going to write and give this talk???
any suggestions????????????
Ok, this is an easy one! Read from the book of Ezekiel 48:35 "Round about [there will be] eighteen thousand [cubits]; and the name of the city from [that] day on will be Jehovah Himself Is There.”
YOU can end it with New Heavens and New Earth! and the prince your prince will be coming to the holy city! maybe he will have his own lot of land? Need to read Ezekiel!
I think it is a promise that we as JW can look forward to seeing and coming up to God kingdom to worship!
The householder can agree with you and thank you for pointing out Ezekiel as evidence of God's kingdom with his son ruling!
1 cor 15:28 - when he has done this, then the son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that god may be all in all.
what happens to jesus at this point?
if he is part of a trinity, does he meld into god and disappear?
Perhaps Jesus will turn all power and authority back to His God, Jehovah. I am okay with that wonderful thought of a loving son handing over the kingdom to Jehovah.
There really is something that WTBTS can not take away and that is my love for Jehovah and his son Jesus. I am not making Jesus lower than the angels but I am not making him higher than my Almighty God Jehovah!
I hope a lot of exjw do not fall back into trinity mind set or gnostic ways!
it seems to me that they're slowly dismantling the date theology that ties the end times to this period in history.
first, they updated the generation teaching to mean a figurative generation, thus removing the possibility in the near future when all who were alive in 1914 are dead.
then, they abandoned 1935 so the annointed will never die off, and prove their belief that the annointed will see armageddon wrong.
No, because they have to add Noah's one hundred and twenty years of preaching to 1914. I really do not see them getting rid of the date! I heard rumors that they stopped using the date as much! during the meetings.
this thread was inspired by another thread about "two classes of the annointed".
1 page 805. as we all know when the term faithful and discreet slave is used by the witnesses it is usually always about the governing body.
in most prayers we hear at the meeting we hear the brother asking jehovah to direct the fds.. notice who the insight book says the faithful and discreet slave is,.
Yeah Gumby I did notice it says "ALL" but the JW says that "ALL" only applies to the FDS class. Did it mean all or a few?
this thread was inspired by another thread about "two classes of the annointed".
1 page 805. as we all know when the term faithful and discreet slave is used by the witnesses it is usually always about the governing body.
in most prayers we hear at the meeting we hear the brother asking jehovah to direct the fds.. notice who the insight book says the faithful and discreet slave is,.
Yeah Gumby I did notice it says "ALL" but the JW says that "ALL" only applies to the FDS class. Did it mean all or a few?
i personally am a sceptic regarding the validity of hypnosis as a form of mind control.
i associate it with entertainment tricks pulled by stage performers.. i never experienced any weird happenings during my only two visits to a kh.
is anyone able to refute me?
I think the songs will put YOU in a trance!
i was doing an image search on google and found a link to a website that appears to fully support the watchtower org.
[ http://www.jehovah-god.org/ ] .
interesting thing to me is the pictures that it shows, some i have never seen in offical literature, yet they look like they couldve have been ones made but not used, or something i dont know.. and others that resemble images from books such as the revelation book... (the city, pearls etc).
Hmm! it looks like Eve is holding on to a pear? LOL Look at the tree there are more green pears! Adam does not look too happy!
So she is a nut case! That is too bad!